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Who would you think would make a better Amyrlin, Jasnah or Navani?
Brandon Sanderson
Navani. It depends on the era though. Near the end, probably Jasnah.
Who would you think would make a better Amyrlin, Jasnah or Navani?
Navani. It depends on the era though. Near the end, probably Jasnah.
I was wondering about the spirit behind "strength before weakness." It's one that, the more I think about it practically, the more I think I'm missing it.
So there are several sort of ways that I interpret it, and like all of them, I want to interpret them differently through the books. Rhythm of War digs into the "strength before weakness" a little bit more. Like the other two, there is a natural sort of sense of it. We are strong and everyone will be weak. And the idea is that you are strong for the weak when the weak cannot be strong, because someone will need to be there for you to be strong when you are weak. Is like the core concept of it. Everybody is weak sometimes; everybody is strong sometimes, and we need each other. And that's kind of the philosophy behind "strength before weakness."
If a tree falls in the Forests of Hell and no one is around to hear it, do the shades still get angry?
Hah hah, the tree in the cosmere is self-aware to a very small extent, so it's impossible for a tree to fall with nobody being there.
The Lord Ruler used a lot of metal for shielding and stuff. But if he had had an aluminum helmet himself, would it have protected him from Ruin's influence at all, or would the spikes overcome that?
Aluminum helmet would help in that situation. Aluminum could very well have been something useful for resisting, yeah.
If you used a Lifeless body, would a Lifeless be able to access an untapped metalmind...
An unkeyed type of metalmind?
Thank you, I could not think of that word. Would they be able to access an unkeyed metalmind if the intent when the Lifeless was created, if the intent was that they could...
Right, I see what you're getting at. Yes, they could. As they could access and use any tool that is appropriate for what they're Commanded to do, they could indeed access a metalmind in the same way.
In fact, doing so may, depending on the metalmind, be dangerous for keeping your Lifeless a Lifeless.
Another friend, the one who needed to eat a shoe because Eshonai died, is obsessed with direforms, the Regal forms, and would love to know their ability set.
You can tell her, or him, or them, that the ability set will be decided upon as they are relevant to the nature of the story.
I was wondering if there is a written Shallan and Adolin wedding scene?
There is not a written one. Sorry, sorry. If it was written, I would release it for you, but there isn't one. Maybe I'll need to write one. I do get this request decently often. I thought people would be tired of wedding scenes, we already had a wedding scene. I'm like, "Ah, we could skip this one. "
That was like different. That was like a "you just need to get married," there wasn't like a love, a whole experience with the scene.
Yeah, yes. Maybe I need to write that at some point
You can just blame it on me, everybody else does.
Why is that?
Because it's the beta readers' fault you didn't write that scene.
Is that what they think?
We apparently told you to take it out of the book.
Ohhhh, ok. So there's mythology associated with it. Now I can write it and put Kellyn in, and they can be, like, making fun of you, and then they'll think that I cut it because it was unflattering to you
In the Syl interlude in Rhythm of War, she is speaking with Dalinar about his powers and the things those powers have done in the past. And what she says is "a Bondsmith bound other Surges". First of all, what other Surges?
One potential interpretation for you on this, remember they use Surge and spren sometimes interchangeably in-world. Just making you aware of that.
Yeah I'm aware of that. Bound other Surges....
That might be what she's talking about. I'm not guaranteeing it.
Then the term Bondsmith. To me it seems like she's talking about Ishar and the Ashyn stuff. So would they use Bondsmith to describe him in that place?
And that would be maybe the power of Connection, the way Lightweaving is the power of illusion?
So one other thing to keep aware of in the cosmere - for instance they call "Lightweaving" any illusion-based magic working on the same fundamentals. And so you could argue - and people will use it that way in-world - that Bondsmithing is both an order [of Knights Radiant] and a power that exists outside the order.
Yes. And for instance, there were not Elsecallers to get people between Ashyn and Roshar, but on Roshar they would explain what happened there as Elsecalling. Does that make sense?
I mean, as much as these things make sense, yes.
Could a retired Radiant actually have just like, passed their bond to their kid or to a squire or something?
So this is tricky because the spren's involved, and the person's own disposition and things like... you can't just pass it on, they would have to be saying the oaths, they would have to be right for the Order, the spren would have to be on-board. I would say there is a better chance that a family member would than a random person, but it's not guaranteed.
Can Radiants have kids?
Yes.
Can they heal their kids?
Can they heal their kids?
Like, during the process.
During... like, in-utero?
Yes.
Yes.
I've been trying to figure out how the Fused and the Regals get their Voidlight. Heavenly Ones seem to be able to levitate indefinitely unless they heal, which presumably expends their Light. But then the Pursuer needs to go get spheres. And then there's the Song of Prayer, which I don't understand at all.
All of the Fused have an active and an inactive way to use their Voidlight. For some of them, one is way more dramatic than the other. So you should be watching for the different brands of Fused to each have that. If they don't use it actively, they get a passive effect. And if they do use it actively, it runs out. So watch for that with them.
They each only have one power, as opposed to Knights Radiant, but they have the staying power of consistency depending on what they are.
The Song of Prayer. Let's just say that Odium likes his Fused being reliant upon him. Does that make sense?
I think it does. My assumption has been that anyone can just sing the song and ask for Investiture.
Yes, this is true, because most of the time he's not going to be paying direct attention, and it's just going to... yeah.
Hero of Ages, Harmony in the epigraphs says that brass and copper Allomancers can become savants and never even notice. I know that generally savantism is supposed to have really extreme effects, so how does that work that they do not notice?
So, most savanthoods have extreme effects, some of them it's just not as noticeable. It can warp your soul without you really even paying that much attention to it. I kind of have a push and pull on how debilitating it is in some ways versus others. In this case, those are two that you can become that it would not be very debilitating in your life.
What effects would that have for that?
I'll RAFO that.
Are they [Wax and Steris] gonna have kids?
Spoiler, but yes.
It seems to me like the Shards each have a color associated with them. Honor I think is blue, Odium is gold... My first question would be, what colors would be associated with Preservation and Ruin?
So, I have always associated white and black with Preservation and Ruin.
Would that have changed for Harmony?
It will have changed for Harmony. But I won't say what it is.
Any chance for a sequel [to Elantris]?
The chance for a sequel to this is pretty decent. I hope to get to it. My goal is to write them after Stormlight 5, but we will see.
Rysn, why can't she bond a spren? Is it just to help her travel quicker, since it's difficult to travel with a spren? Or is there another reason?
There is another reason why she is forbidden from bonding a spren.
Forbidden or impossible?
Forbidden. It's not impossible. It is forbidden of her.
Has there ever been a Radiant besides a Bondsmith that has used Lifelight before Lift?
RAFO.
Is what happened on Roshar similar to what happened in Arelon, of being thematically broken due to something...?
*Hesitant noise* Yes, you are correct.
The warrior monks in Elantris, are they a non-genetic magic system?
So here's the thing in Elantris. On Sel, you most usually need to be born in a certain location for the magic to work on you from that region. So, it's not genetic, meaning if you move there, your children count, right? Regardless of what your genetic heritage and things like that is. But it is regional.
For Dakhor monks, wasn't it that they went to monasteries and trained over time and then they're...?
So they do have something done to them that does this. But where they're from is directly related to how that works, how powerful it is, and these sorts of things.
Has Wit's bonding a Cryptic bound him to Roshar tighter?
Yes, asterisk.
The reason for the asterisk on Wit is, you've seen him offworld since then. So just be aware there is an issue there, but yes, it's very similar.
Dalinar had two really weird visions. Was that Connection-y stuff like he did with Kaladin and Tien?
Which ones are you talking about?
End of Words of Radiance, and in Oathbringer with Nohadon.
Yes, that would be the same sort of weirdness that's happening with Tien. Yes, so you have basically multiple different ways of interpreting this. One is just--what Dalinar wants is directly... he is starting to change the visions specifically, and some might argue he is pulling from the Beyond. Others would argue that what Dalinar wants, feels things in his past, he is actually enforcing upon the vision, and is changing and altering the visions. And that is absolutely going on. It's whether the other thing is happening or not, depends on your personal religious beliefs. But Dalinar is starting, the Bondsmithing is starting to shape the visions.
The Five Scholars traveled from Nalthis to Roshar. And Intent is very important across all of the Cosmere. But also, Sel is actually closer than it is to Roshar. And from everything we know right now, when it comes to Intent, the Intent of using the Aons mirrors sort of Awakening. So did they travel to Sel as well, and has that influenced the way Nalthians learned to Awaken?
That is a RAFO for right now. Let's just say that the things that happened on Sel that prevented travel were not in place several thousand years ago.
What I sidestepped is whether the Scholars had been to Sel, I heavily implied people from Nalthis had been to Sel. Don't take that as canon, that it's specifically the Scholars. That part is a RAFO.
Did Shallan change her last name when she got married?
You do not change your last names if you are...
In Jah Keved?
Yes, so she did not change her last name. She is still Shallan Davar.
And there's also some... there's some weirdness there in line of succession stuff as well, which wouldn't be the case if she had been from Alethkar, and of certain, proper, you know... But the fact that she is not, she would keep her original name and would not be in succession for the throne.
Do you anticipate Dalinar having a larger page count in SA5?
Yes.
The Inquisitors keep spikes in jars to stop the Hemalurgic decay. Is that clotted blood? Like, does it just work with clotted blood?
It will. So what's going here is the spikes have to - this is a weird Cosmere thing - the spikes have to think they're in a body and you gotta trick them. You don't need to use blood but that's the easiest thing that they could do to make it work. You could also leave it in a piece of meat.
You can put the stake in the steak!
You can put a stake in a steak. But there are plenty of ways to do this without doing that. But yes, it's pretty gross.
Not that I think they have consciousness very much, but I imagine that they're a bit stupid if they think that clotted blood is the same as a human body.
Yes. You're just tricking the stupid piece of metal that has a little bit of extra Investiture and has become slightly self-aware, and so it keeps its charge and doesn't... yeah. There are much better modern ways of doing this that have started to be used.
Do Sazed and Kelsier still like each other?
*Very drawn out and with a "but" nearly audibly hanging in the air* Yes.
Thinking of him as Thaidakar, I have to wonder like, he can't be doing things that Sazed would approve of, right?
No. He definitely is doing things Sazed does not approve of. That's an astute observation. They do understand each other, though, right?
So then Sazed knows what he's doing?
He knows some of it, yeah. A decent amount. You will find out more in upcoming books.
Let's say that the relationship between Sazed and Kell is... complicated and strained. But they would still consider themselves friends, would be what I would say.
Would an Xavier-Magneto relationship be a little...?
Yes. Not quite so antagonistic, but yes.
The specific word "ralkalest," it appears on multiple worlds. Why did you use that instead of just saying "aluminum"?
This is mostly us just being cheeky. I like fantasy names for star metal, and I came up with ralkalest because... I go back and forth sometimes about how much I just want to call something what it is in translation, and how much I want to call... In this case, I decided ralkalest sounds cool, it evokes the feeling of the people in world viewing this metal, where they have this view of it as this mythical, magical sort of thing. And simply calling it "aluminum" doesn't convey that in the same way, the mythology associated with it. So I use both, but it's like there's two different languages, and when I'm using "ralkalest," it's more evoking their view of this metal.
On Sel, Shai says one word, and Raboniel says another word, neither of them are saying aluminum? Neither of them are saying some other word that doesn't exist in English?
Right, they are both saying, ralkalest would be a transliteration of the actual word in world.
But which language, which transliteration?
Oh, which language does ralkalest come from? I think ralkalest is probably original Yolish, but I haven't actually sat down and written that down. But that's what I would say now, that we're looking for kind of a mythological level. And a lot of times if you're gonna get a mythological term that's gonna transfer across worlds, it's gonna go back to what it was called on Yolen, right? Some of the words from Yolen are kind of like the way that we use Old English, or even... Latin's weird in English, so it's not really Latin. Latin and Greek have both been incorporated into scientific terms for things. But ancient terms, maybe more like Hebrew. Sometimes there's just some words that feel mythological. Some Yolish terms, because of that, kind of flow through the cosmere.
If a Cognitive Shadow or a Splinter gained Connection to the Physical Realm, could they just transition through a perpendicularity to manifest a physical form, or is something else required?
Something else would be required, because you're... But that would take you a long way. It's going to depend on the situation, right?
Because Ishar was doing something where like he was Connecting spren...
Yes, Ishar was doing something, and so for instance, spren are gonna be played a little differently than a Cognitive Shadow would be played. Like, Cognitive Shadows, that's just not gonna be enough. But spren is much closer. This has to do with how much Investiture's involved and how they're Connected and things like this, but it's not quite enough. In most cases.
So Ishar was doing something in addition to just Connecting the spren to the Physical Realm?
Yes. He was indeed doing something more.
What's the source of rubber on Roshar?
It's not very exciting, it is a tree. It's not an actual rubber tree, it is a Rosharan version of the tree. I actually had to think about this, cause silk doesn't come from the same place that silk comes from. And then, I'm just going too far. Silk I can at least talk about and I can name it seasilk, but for rubber I'm just like, it's a rubber tree. We'll just make it rubber. It's not petroleum based. That's gonna be a hangup on Roshar, that they don't have petroleum reserves in the same way. They are a planet that has only been around for 12,000, 13,000 years. And beyond that, there's the whole crem thing. They do have some sources of petroleum that are biological, or I guess it's all biological, but it's not, yeah. That's gonna be a problem for them, let's just say. Access to large petroleum reserves is not a thing you will find there.
Was Kelsier directly involved in causing the showdown with Bloody Tan that ended up with Lessie...
No. As I have it written right now, no. Indirectly involved, possibly, but this is not an outcome he wanted, it's not something he influenced, and not something I would even say that he was aware was happening. I haven't written Secret History 2, so that's totally possible that... But I don't have it planned for him to be involved right now.
The Hemalurgy table, you wrote down "atium steals any power, lerasium is all abilities, nicrosil is Investiture"; what's the difference between those three?
Hemalurgic atium, lerasium, and nicrosil. What's powers, abilities, and Investiture?
People are Invested in ways that do not give them active powers. So for instance, everyone on Nalthis is Invested. Everyone in the cosmere is, really. You want to steal their Investiture, but they don't have a power. You're still ripping off a piece of their soul. So there is a distinction between the actual Investiture that's in a human being and a specific power that they have.
So that distinction is pretty easy. You can also, with Hemalurgy, steal specific things. You can steal just general Investiture. You can steal, if you want--this is where the kandra Blessings come from. You can instead steal specific things that are not like stealing Allomancy. Stealing, for instance, someone's mental acuity.
So abilities is like the half that's all the strength, speed, all that kind of stuff? Those are abilities, versus the Metallic Arts are all powers?
Yes.
Then Investiture, is that offworld magics?
No, no, it's the raw power.
Nicrosil is their soul?
Yes. A piece of their soul, essentially.
So how would you go about stealing an offworld power?
It's going to depend. A Breath, you would steal with nicrosil. It's general Investiture, is what you would probably going call that. You could forcibly remove someone's Breath from them. The ability to be a Sand Master you would steal with the power ability.
Question about primer cubes and Rhythms. There's a Rhythm associated with every metal when they're used and that's what gets sensed by bronze Allomancy. Does the primer cube sense that same Rhythm and replicate it?
No, it's actively like, drawing the Investiture in. The active...*hems and haws* is that what's going on? I will have to RAFO that, I'm going to have to go back to think about that some more.
There is currently one dragon on Roshar. Before Tanavast died, were there two dragons on Roshar?
Ha ha ha, RAFO. Nice try.
They haven't gotten the Truthwatcher oaths yet. They're trying to pull a fast one on me.
I just thought if I didn't ask, then the answer's definitely no.
I mean, "Life before death" is technically a Truthwatcher oath.
When Warbreaker has the priest's daughter manipulate her Breath, it doesn't appear to be permanently damaged afterwards. Like, Vivenna notes it flickers, but it seems to go back to what it was before, and Hoid loses some when Odium does something very very similar. Why is that?
Yes. Odium was being more invasive and more destructive. And is less practiced at what was happening.
And I want to know if Kell has worked with Khriss since he met her.
Worked together...
To study something.
Yes.
So like, they've been research partners on a paper.
They have worked together.
Did Kell and Spook create the Hemalurgy chart in the book?
No, I don't believe that is actually designed by them.
I wanted to know if any of the non-Returned Cognitive Shadows have had children?
Yes.
What would the Surge of Transformation look like to an observer in the Cognitive Realm when someone's transitioning?
I will RAFO that, and I plan to show it someday.
Bronze Allomancy and tones. Normally you can only hear Allomancy--they haven't figured to use Feruchemy. Is that because they need to learn to listen on a different pure tone?
Not necessarily, but I like the way you're theorizing.
Is Kelsier confirmed as the leader of the Ghostbloods?
He is. I can tell you that. They will make an appearance in the next Wax and Wayne book, now that the full secret is out.
In The Traveler, which you read here [at a prior JordanCon], Hoid was on Yolen. He has only worldhopped with perpendicularities. Does Yolen have a perpendicularity?
Yolen has something very similar.
Okay, is it associated with a Shard?
You would call it a perpendicularity, but there is not a Shard in residence on Yolen.
Is Jaddeth a Dawnshard?
*singing* RAFO...
Did Mraize pass on Wit's message to Kelsier?
Haha, yes, he did.
So besides Sja-anat, Cultivation, and El, does anyone know about the new Odium?
I think that most of the Shards will be quickly finding out, if that makes sense. Like, this is a thing that they would know. Pretty quickly.
The red bird in Rhythm of War that Lift saves... Is that Magellan?
It is not Magellan, the coloring is slightly different. But it is inspired by my love of parrots. So yes, the colorings are slightly different from Magellan's.
Is that an Aviar?
It is an Aviar.
Highest Ideal that a Bondsmith has ever sworn.
The Bondsmiths have gone all the way.
I've got a question about fabrial epigraphs. So you've got the pewter and tin, about the augmenters and diminshers, and the tin one says you can use steel and iron to change the polarity. Then the iron one says they haven't figured out how to do...
Yes, they haven't been able to figure it out.
Is that because they haven't found the right kind of steel? I mean, but they have it for *motions at augmenter/diminisher epigraphs on phone*.
So, what are you...
So what does the steel and iron, how does that... Cause I would just think, if they're going to switch polarity, you'd just use both tin and pewter, and that switches the polarity. What does the steel and iron actually do?
I'll RAFO that for now. But yes, basically... I'll RAFO it for now.
With Intent and Command, I've been thinking about how these things would apply to other worlds. On Nalthis they seem kind of folded together into the same thing, but I can't crack the metals on Scadrial and the Aons in Elantris. Because the Aons seem very Command-y, not very Intent-y, right? What about the metals?
The Aons, you should be able to eventually figure it out. With the metals, when I wrap this in, it's going to be very slight, and you shouldn't assume that every one of the permutations of the cosmere magics are going to require the same levels of... I need the freedom on each one. So Intent and Command can't be a major feature of every magic, otherwise it's too restrictive. You're going to end up with too many that feel the same. You can imagine, on Scadrial, that different metals would not have had to do what they do in the origin of the magic system. That is not necessarily innate, that is relating to the creation of the magic.
How it was built manually, almost, by a Shard?
Does that make sense? You can imagine an in-cosmere magic system that is very similar to Allomancy, where each of the metals do a different thing than is in Allomancy.
Is there like a Cosmere-significant reason why, on Scadrial, the Investiture is hereditary, but that that doesn't really seem to be the case on any of the other worlds?
Yes there is, but it has to do more with the fact that on Scadrial, human beings were directly created by Ruin and Preservation. And most of the Cosmere worlds you've seen don't have that same sort of aspect. It is the case on Nalthis, but it's not the case on Roshar, it's not the case on Taldain, it's not the case on Sel. And so because of that instance, that's how I'm kind of working, that changed the way people interact with magic directly. But there is some wiggle room there for me. But that's your answer, that's the actual... there's.. I'm not hiding anything there, there is wiggle room. What I'm saying is don't extrapolate that that has to happen every time that the Shards were directly involved in the creation...