Kurkistan
So, could you give us some examples of how the ideals that spren represent work in other magic systems, like we have Forging where you get plausibility, or Returned how they're beautiful or any other systems?
Brandon Sanderson
Okay, one more time on that.
Kurkistan
Okay, so you know the ideals the spren are manifestations--
Brandon Sanderson
Yes.
Kurkistan
How-- Do those have impacts on other magic systems?
Brandon Sanderson
Yes, yes, in the same way the Returned- that's the exact same system at work there.
Kurkistan
Is it the same reason why the Lord Ruler has to die of old age, and why you can't heal yourself into being an octopus or something?
Brandon Sanderson
Um... Yes, that is all connected in the exact same way.
Kurkistan
Okay, so it's all like these highfalutin Spiritual ideals?
Brandon Sanderson
Yes.
Kurkistan
And are there like, median Cognitive ideals that gradually kind of influence these, or--
Brandon Sanderson
Yeah, they transcend between the three. I mean the original concept for the Three Realms is Platonic philosophy.
Kurkistan
So it goes up *makes absurd reverse-waterfall hand gesture*
Brandon Sanderson
Yeah, it goes up and it comes back down. A lot of the Cognitive is-- So like, the Cognitive has a bigger effect on how you can heal and things like that. Does that make sense?
Kurkistan
Yeah.
Brandon Sanderson
But the power to heal is a actually a Spiritual thing.
Kurkistan
So it's like the Spiritual says "I want to be like this" and the Cognitive is like "Okay I'll try really hard to be like that, but I have a limit."
Brandon Sanderson
Right. Right. Filtered through how you see yourself, yeah.