Does Bavadin have a sibling?
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Does Bavadin have a sibling?
Were Bavadin and Edgli sisters?
[Brandon] must have had enough of chuckles every time someone referred to Bavadin as a "he" over the past few years.....
Bavadin has several male personas, and has often appeared as male for one purpose or another, so it's not that much of an issue. She has more female personas, but some of the male ones are quite popular.
This won't be relevant for a long while, but as a service to the community, let me say this: try not to get too hung up on gender, race, or even human appearance where Bavadin is concerned. There are some peoples who worship entire pantheons where every member is actually her.
There are some peoples who worship entire pantheons where every member is actually her.
I think that's hilarious.
I've been meaning to ask a similar question for a few days now, I am glad someone else did and you replied. Bavadin is now instantly super interesting to me!
Bavadin is awesome. One regret of finally moving on from White Sand (and doing the graphic novel, instead of doing an entire trilogy myself) is because I won't get to show her off as a character for a while. It should still happen, mind you, but I have enough on my plate right now that I just can't do it all.
Eh, it's alright. The more we wait to see her, the more practice writing you will have when you do write her, and the more awesome she will be to us :) Are we going to see her in White Sand first though, or elsewhere?
I've also been talking with a couple of friends about Ambition, who happens to be a Shard I love unconditionally just because of his?her? mandate. So I should ask - how tight-lipped do you intend to be with information about it? Can we prod for a little bit of trivia, or is it too early for that?
I'm going to be pretty tight-lipped for now. Let's at least let White Sand finish first--you will find her in there, though her touch on the story (directly) is light. She prefers to allow her personas to become the focus of attention.
Was Bavadin nonhuman?
RAFO. There is at least one Shard who wasn't human, but I'm not ready to reveal who was or wasn't just yet.
Hey Brandon, may I ask if the red-haired woman on the Dayside map is a kind of depiction of one of Bavadin's personas?
She is not. Isaac designed that border without any explicit instructions from me, so while he might have an idea of who it is, it isn't someone specifically relevant to large-scale cosmere workings.
Is Bavadin a dragon? Was she originally a dragon?
Can you tell us the intent of Bavadin's Shard?
The intent of Bavadin's Shard? No. But good question.
My question is about Bavadin. Is she a hive mind?
No, hive mind isn't the right word for it, but...
So she's not an Aimian or something like that...
She's not an Aimian. That's - that's a good question. No, she is not.
The thing I wanted to ask you about was in White Sand, it's actually on the map, it is...(pointing at map) is this Autonomy, or Bavadin?
Hehehe, that is a very good guess.....that is very very sharply guessed...
Yeah, coz, I really, I just like kind of the idea of the Shards and stuff, and I guess I want to learn more about what they look like and, kind of their personalities and stuff.
Bavadin's a hard one, because what does Bavadin look like? Bavadin looks like what she feels like looking like, or what he feels like looking like, depending upon the day.
Is [Bavadin] the only Shard on White Sand? If so is he the sun or is he the darkside?
He is the only shard on the planet.
But is he the sun?
I'm not gonna answer.
How is homosexuality regarded across the cosmere?
I know one member of Bridge 4, though I forget who, is gay, but I'm asking more in the sense of legality, societal view, etc.
It would probably depend on the planet and culture involved. Roshar has many varied cultures and probably has multiple different acceptance levels. Scadrial is much more progressive and really only has two cultures so it's more likely that most if not all of the world accepts it. Maybe this is something you could ask [Brandon] at a signing or during an AMA.
Yes, this varies widely based on the planet, and even culture, TimAnEnchanter.
Roshar, for instance, has a lot of different perspectives on homosexuality. In Iri, the more religious segment (who believe that life is about new experiences) would approve, while the more rigid modern, secular society has outlawed it.
In Azir, you'd find something like existed in middle-ages India. (Some societies there had this curious system where a gay man would be given "social reassignment" so that he was treated like a woman, dressed like one, and had relations with men--even if he wasn't actually transsexual.)
Vorin culture is concerned with oaths. Extra-marital sexuality is strictly forbidden, but homosexuality is regarded the same by most as heterosexual relationships. If the proper oaths are spoken, then the Almighty approves. (This usually means marriage, but there are certain official forms of other relationships that would allow it also.)
There are actually a couple of scenes in Book Three talking about it, for those who are interested, as the family and romantic relationships of the bridgemen are becoming a larger part of the story. (Still a small part, I should note, for space limitations.)
On Scadrial, it's going to fall between Pathian lines (each individual decides for themselves) and Survivorist lines (you follow church hierarchy, which forbids it.)
Don't even get me started on Bavadin's religions.
What reasons do Survivorists use to rationalize heterosexuality? Thank you so much for these tidbits it's really interesting to hear more about this stuff from you. It would be great to see some of this canonized, maybe in an interlude, or random background discussion somewhere. Thank you again for your books! Also very interested in hearing why secular Iriali have decided to 'regress' on that.
Survivorism calls it unnatural, and not conducive to the survival of the species. More than that, though, Survivorism has become very conservative and slow to change. What early thinkers had to say is regarded very strictly in the religion. Back during the early days of the new era, repopulating the basin was of prime concern, and this became a big part of what led to moral codes in Survivorism.
Is-- As of Era Two in Mistborn, is Bavadin still alive?
Ehhh... *long pause* I'm pretty sure I've answered that, but just in case I haven't I'm going to RAFO it.
The Luthadel guard in The Final Empire, the garrison leader, his name is Bevidon, which sounds suspiciously like Bavadin.
Is there any connection there?
Herr and Frue, the Jaggenmire, are they related to Bavadin?? Or Trell and Nalt??
Did Hoid have anything to do with Bavadin showing up on Sel?
What is something that we don't know about Bavadin?
Somebody asked that already too… Those are both things that you will find out eventually and I'm holding those answers close to my heart right now...
So can I assume that any question about Bavadin is going to be a RAFO?
It depends on how specific it is. Like "I just want to know something more" is almost always going to be a RAFO on any question nowadays. Something asks very specifics has a better chance.
Would you tell me the intent of Bavadin's Shard?
Hmm… Are we ready to release that?
I don't know-- well we haven't-- We haven't written it into the scripts yet, but we've only done so many of the scripts so-- I don't know if that would be better place for us to reveal it or not...
If you're confident that you like what we're doing with it then we can release it now.
Great. Well we had that big discussion and it sounded like that’s what we wanted to do.
Okay, we're going to have Isaac write it. He's in charge of White Sand now. And you can choose whether to share this with people or not because it's not on the recording.
Oh it isn't?
No, I talked around it on purpose.
Would it be too much to ask for the gender of the original holder [of Autonomy]?
Uh yeah, the original holder, what do you mean by that?
Yeah, we’re going to leave that one for--
So Bavadin's avatar *inaudible*.
One of Bavadin's avatars.
Of those avatars, are some or all of them actual Splinters of Autonomy?
The terminology gets kind of sticky here. In Cosmere terms, some would say that counts as Splinters, some would say not. The avatars aren't necessarily aware but Bavadin always is. A lot of people in Cosmere would call that a Splinter.
My follow up to that would be, is it possible for a person to Ascend and become a Vessel of one of those Splinters?
That is plausible. Yes. It could happen. It would be tough because they will have personalities of their own and so something would need to happen.
Will we see any Shardholders beyond the three already at work? Specifically, will we see Bavadin?
You will see other Shards. Bavadin is on the planet Taldain, where White Sand takes place.
How do we pronounce Bavadin?
ba-va-din (ba as in batman, va as in want, din as in dinner).
Have we see [Bavadin's] influence on other worlds till now – like Austre in Nalthis or other religions which Sazed studied on Scadrial for example.
Yes you have seen her influence in other worlds other than Taldain. He wouldn't confirm if it is Nalthis or Scadrial or any other planet.